very very academic discussion! My answer was only - i don't care with wich methods an image is done - it's the quality that counts. BUT In a Vue forum - as HellBorn said - i want to see (mainly) Vue images. To learn wat is possible, to show what i am able to do with this program etc etc. If nothing matters, why not posting Bryce images here? Or Maya or whatever. Photos from our little kittens? The discussion wether it is possible or not to use others than Vue objects is very strange. Vue allows to import things so importing objects is part of the deal. Well, alpha planes are on the border line, because there you are mostly leaving the 3D world. I personally don't like them, but i accept others who uses them and come to nice results. Walther

One day your ship comes in - but you're at the airport.