Interesting reading. Yes of course people with bad experiences have a right to complain - freedom of speech etc. etc. (which also allows people who've had good experiences to gleefully report that, too). Though I think a lot of "these threads" go slightly awry. Here's a VASTLY over-simplified version of how I've read a lot of them: 1. Darn software! Darn company! Argh! And support? There is none! 2. Works great for me - can we do comparisons and maybe between us, the users, we can find some other factor which is a part of the problem? 3. I just so wish you people would let the #1's complain about poor service without badgering them! ...at which point any cohesion the thread may have aimed at goes to pot. Oh - Wacom graphics tablet? Have a care - apparently the driver can cause problems with mouse cursor. See the Poser 5 beta forum, where IIRC SimonWM found that out and reported the issue.