Poser 5 works fine enough with me, but that may be because I don't ask it to do much more than what poser 4 did. Like Queri, I have forgotten about using the cloth room, the animation room, the face room (wich works no better than Vickie 2 morphs if you know them well). I also stopped trying using advanced options in renderings : atmosphere nodes, gel lights, procedural textures, all this froze my computer. It only works when I'm using a single character with hardly a prop or dress (good excuse for undressing Vickie). IMHO, Curious labs should have concentrated on improving one or 2 fetures of Poser 4 (for instance library management and material room) and forget about the other ideas. The net result is that everything is half done. I feel like this is a sort of grand ecart. Poser 4 was a good application, affordable by amateurs but usable by pros. These 2 populations seem to have different wishes about the future of Poser and what he can do. Some wish it to stay low cost, fast, fun and with tons of free items, others wish it to become a pro tool capable of the best renderings, even if this means being more expensive and requiring exponential ressources. I feel like CL has not made the choices between the 2 and has taken the risk of disapointing both.