Well I have a nvidia, but running on 98. Have had no trouble with Poser 5 at all. Installed all the latest patches. No crashes, no timeouts, reasonable render rates. Perhaps the inherently unstable win2k is part of the problem? says innocently I understand CL is workeing hard to fix all the known problems. They're kind of understaffed at the moment, due to issues with their parent company and the rocky economy. Lyrra