My 2 cents: Also if you look at the mesh under the render, it's not that detailed. SEE what a good Texture, bump and good UV mapping does! People we can do just as well IMHO. Finding a hires shots of faces seems to be the only hard part. (men mostly) As for horns and other morphs, I think we have the talent here also. I think my Geisha speaks to that. And the Geisha was completely rendered in Poser 4 with only the background done in PhotoShop. But it's good to see these things, it inspires us all! James