Ahhh but Cheers you said it yourself...your using the files beyond what Vue does. In order to render Vue must have something to render and as it's not really a modeler you will have to import objects unless your only interested in rendering landscapes only. The end result from Vue is the render and some alpha maps. Taking the image and the alphas and continue work in another application is post work. ;) If you did read the rest of my posting you also know that I don't mind postwork in general. It's just that the reason for me to visiting this forum at all is to learn how far I can take it with Vue and except for information on how to use the alpha maps the rest of post work really belongs in a Photoshop (or whatever is being used) or a general 3D forum as the source for the images no longer matters. But at the same time. If you render anything that includes a poser figure you have to fix the ugly joints in post work because there is no Vue setting that can fix it for you. So as I said before. I would prefer if there is no post work and if there is post work then I would like to know for what it's been used.