We don't model any of our models in Poser, but when we do model our models, I have found that Poser can be a great tool to fix things or adjust them with good accuracy. I know how you feel about the constent nudity in the Poser gallery Rayraz, but there are so many different artist here and so many look at nudity so differently then each other. If I am in the Poser gallery and see the nudity flag up, and I am tired of that, I just pass it by. But to be honest some people can get tired of looking at landscapes too and pass them by also. I really like the diversity we have here in the galleries. We have some mighty fine artists and each one uses their tools to accent their talents. I do agree with electroglyph regarding the rendering speed, you really can't beat it. Now although Poser 5 renders are a little longer depending on how you set it up to render, it is still a very good and strong render engine. I love Vue and Bryce, (shhhhhh but I do prefer Vue over Bryce please don't take offense) and Poser well I feel can't be compared to either of those 2 softwares. It is just another really good software to utilize. Sharen