I guess what we need is a course in how to get expression into our Vickys without it seeming like a cartoon. Some people (not me) seem to be able to get a gentle, subtle emotion to play onto the faces and I couldn't say how they do it...is it manipulation of the face, light, shadow, postwork or some kind of combination? There are people who have a real ability to bring the Vickys (or any other figure) to life while the rest of us struggle. I guess that would be the difference between the artist and the rest of us. And I concede to their ability without argument. Do your own thing, Jettboy. If you're doing what makes you happy, the opinions of the rest of us really don't matter.