I think, she didn't mean to insult us Poser-users not even the artists among us ;-) She probably meant Poser is not used much (if at all) in the professional market, because it lacks some features they need, for example, batch rendering with a render farm, compositing tools and the like. It is a very fine tool for me and you for hobby purposes and it comes with an acceptable price tag. The professional tools cost a lot more and are more integrated. Remember the hoopla because CL hasn't yet finished a MAC-version or the interfaces for Lightwave or C4D? It has nothing to do with the quality of stills you can make very conveniently with Poser, IMHO. Willy