paulis, I've posted before on Bryce forum and occasional do when folks ask about training. Its a good one to bookmark. I have to agree, there's more room for tuts and training on 3d apps. One of the reasons I selected Bryce as my first 3d app was the wealth of information available for free on the internet. It was almost a cult like following. Wish we had that with other apps. I've pretty much settled on the dvgarage toolkit for a modeler. Its a high end modeler for a cheap price. Best bang for the buck. Learning curve is not all that bad either. Maybe I'll get around to putting up some introductory tuts.