I think I know what you mean. Ive just updated a Metacreations Poser 4 and now I still have that folder in Program Files, but I also have a Curious Labs folder. Ive just carried on using the Metacreations runtime/libraries etc as the opening screen now shows it as CLabs, so something must have changed. Incidentally, although the update seems to have cured my constant "caught c exception" error, I now have a problem where if it can`t find the geometries file it says "out of memory" and I lose the previously loaded object. Any ideas?