Who's playing politics and who's playing for profit? The whole Poser 5 app is a couple hundred bucks, give or take, upgrade or new purchase. The only money I ever feel I wasted on 3D is for a Mike package I bought for $20 from DAZ. I never used it. P5 came out. The genius of Bill Gates is he figured thar there was more money to be made by building software rather than hardware. DAZ is making more money by making support products for software that is for people too lazy to really get into 3D. It's not that they make poor products, it's just that they make products that are irrelevent if you know 3D.