There'll be no cat shaking goin' on here, not unless you wanta be sliced and diced...had a thought on the mesh ghost, if the "black" surrounding the texture(fern leaf)isn't truely "0", would that leave a ghost? Tried ambience at 11, trans at 0 and the mesh ghost is still there,.........ah HAH, just found it, refraction was way up, reduced it and the ghost is gone (as well as a few leaves, but I'll take the trade off)...Thanks guys, sometimes you just have to think out loud...:)

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