"Yes, he did win.The fact you wish to lessen his achievement in order to attack the "terrible admins" is pathetic" How do you consider this to be an "acheivement? What did he win? was it presented fairly? no. Was it open to all members to decide as was the first poll that was posted and pulled? no. How is this considered a hissy fit when he himself said he did not want to win this way? To offer congratulations would imply that i agree with the way this was handled and the outcome. Nothing could be farther from the truth. Now if they had let the poll stand, there's a good bet he would have won, and i would congratulate him. As it stands now- it's meaningless. Spiritbro is correct, as usual, there was the obligitory " oops gee i am sorry" then the "ask for feedback, not because we will actually do anything with it but hey if it gets them to shut up..."routine, then comes the total disregard for any feedback recieved.