"You mean, if the admins chose him? Or the members?" I was meaning if the members chose him - if the admins had never jumped in with their size 13s and instead had let the voting go on. (I know Legime would never get chosen by the admins!) But I reckon if he'd have won there would have been a big to-do about vote stuffing and "improper art" and there would be a lot of members saying the same thing about Legume's win as is now being said about Toxic Angel's - i.e. it's not worth anything. In that respect, no matter what you think of what happened, the basic outcome was always going to be the same.