"I agree with that statement..." + long post... + "We are talking about legalities here" I wasn't. I have not posted any views about how well the contest was managed, how it might be improved, what the legalities of the decision were, I was merely stating that a winner had been announced and it would be nice if a few people could just say "well done", instead scrabbling around for any leverage possible in their War Against Unjust Contest Rulings even if it means rubbishing somebody's very impressive acheivements. "thats ok- you may use them, i will understand them in spite of your implied view that i would not." That inference never crossed my mind; I was trying to make my post just a little more light-hearted, but I guess anything can be twisted around if you try hard enough. And as for winning AOY twice, yeah, sure, that could happen... : It's like, Oh, I've lost my winning lottery ticket - don't worry, you can enter next week.