rodzilla - It can be confusing sometimes - because poser does not export the "Scale" information (ie: the fact that 1 unit = whatever). So when you import a poser object in another 3D app, you must tell it what the scale is - if you tell it the wrong thing (or don't specify at all), you will get results that may SEEM to prove your theory, but in fact are erroneous. I will illustrate this discrepancy and show you why Geep's theory is unfortunately wrong in the next couple of pages. Geep's numbers are CLOSE so they SEEM OK to the casual observer. But if he were correct, then Michael's height would be over 6' 3" (maybe in his DREAMS!). As I have said, this is no longer a debate because CL has made it readily apparent in Poser 5 since you can see the "real" dimensions directly on the transform dials. We should really stop spreading a myth now that we know better. If Poser 5 says that 1 Poser Unit = 8 feet then that's good enough for me (but I will go on to prove it if there is still doubt).