I'm not going to put the apron in. Sorry pdxjims, I just feel that a conformer is too far beyond the scope of this project, and I have the rest of it done now, bite MTs and all. You know if all else fails there are a lot of tunic-type shirts for Mike and Vocki both that you can transmap into aprons with almost no effort. BTW I have my beta testers set, now, too. I'm about to package everything up and send it to them.