I have been following this copyright crisis very closely, not because it directly effects my own work but it does effect the works of my friends, companies that I respect and the community at large. Somewhere amidst all the forums I am on I read a message (which I have been unable to relocate) where people said he had taken down some people's work. A few have come down, but he has put many more up ... and still things I recognize as being other people's work. Thorne's Mikki is still available as a free download with no mention of Thorne whatsoever with the file. And though on one of his front pages he says "not for sale", on the bottom of every page, including his gallery he says if you are interested in any of the objects to contact him. He's just trying a new approach, but he is still doing the same thing. I lot of people have not been going in through his main page (and who taught him html I want to know ... he is clueless) so might not realize the extent of what all he has there. Does anyone know if Zygote is actually DOING anything about this? Anyway, I didn't know where I had read the original post, but I thought I would post here as many of the persons effected are members here. Be well all, Orb http://orbizart.tripod.com