Sure - Larry Weinberg's "unofficial" patches went > 4.0.2b113, 4.0.2b114,... etc. etc. Uuuhhh! Now you tell us! For us newbies who weren't around in early P4 days, this seems like ominous forboding of what was to happen (is happening) with Poser 5... And you say Poser 4.0.2bxxx was never followed up by further fixes - even when though a new CuriousLabs labelled version had to be released later (with no fixes)... I sure hope the implication isn't that "Slow Poser" (v5.02 .268) isn't "it" for P5! If so, I for one want my money back. (And yes the version # does have a space in it! Really makes you wonder about what "Acceptable Quality" standards are employed at CL does it not?)