Yeah, I know that (of course)... I meant that he picked it up after it was left in the wilderness when MetaC went down. The original developers working on 4.0 > 4.0.1 lost their job at that time, so the work on the recent bugfixes were interrupted (I was beta testing the German P4 at that time). The German customers were still lucky because 4.0.1 solved a lot of the most urgent problems, but the US users were quite panicking. I remember that someone was given an earlier US built a couple of weeks after the release, and there were discussions about the legal situation with releasing it. Very unfortunately they made massive edits in the code itself for the localization, so there was no simple way to turn the German 4.0.1 into the US version. It was one of the best-ever christmas presents when Larry suddenly released the latest bugfix builts through his old Ghost Effects company. If you're interested - they still run the old company site with lots of Poser examples (some dating back to pre-Poser1 days): http://www.ghosteffects.com/