Valandar, considering the original release of Poser 5... 1) bug-riddled 2) offensively restrictive EULA 3) machine-dependent activation 4) reduced price within weeks of release ...I think this is a can of worms that NEEDS to be opened. Who is more unethical here: troberg or CL? I invite everyone to respond to my message "Yes...but is it ethical" that was posted a short while ago (a different thread).