Lyrra, Yeah, I figured that out - went into uvmapper and I couldn't match up the textures . coises, foiled again . . . but I got a better idea of how to use uvmapper so all was not lost. ... and Brendan is coming along fine in his hero training - soon he'll be ready to choose a costume and come up with a heroic name - right now he's torn between Accountantman and Sienfeldman. . . .and meanwhile it the heart of a moderately warm volcano, a rather large repillian figure shrugs and thinks, " Ah well, since the textures don't fit me, Brendan can wear them all he wants - but I will be watching him... " thanks again, - TJ