ScottA, I have made no personal attack on JeffH, and never have. Neither have I supported any alleged pesonal attack on JeffH or any other Renderosity staffperson. I have repeatedly offered words of support for them and appreciation for the site. Such efforts have ALWAYS gone unacknowledged. As one of the people in this thread, I resent your false accusation. You are wrong, very wrong, and perhaps owe me and everyone else who did NOTHING to insult or make fun of JeffH an apology. Furthermore, I have REPEATEDLY defended TammyC against conspiratorial claims. I believed her. You paint with an offensively broad brush, my man. Not to pick nits, but as mild as it may be, "bored children" is indeed an example of insulting name-calling. False accusations of personal attacks are even worse than personal attacks, IMHO.