Oh well, you know what they say about wrestling with pigs. (you know, you get dirty and the pig has fun). I am compelled though to say that I'm neither a "clone" nor a "sub moron" and I resent people like you who resort to name calling when they don't get their way. I believe I spanked my child once for such behavior. She learned, you can too. My final sugestion to you would be to do your art, make some friends and maybe next time someone can vote for you. I've never been one to enjoy a flame war and I generally avoid them at all cost so I'm going to excuse myself now from this pleasant little thread and move to greener pastures.