see ya. I do make my art have my friends and generaly enjoy life. If you had bothered to read some here you would know I have said to drop all the contests and the hot 20 a few times. I don't believe art should be a competition. I don't care about winning so I don't enter them. I'm also not worried about getting my way. In fact I haven't asked for anything. Just not to crazy about people that 1: have no gallery 2: have no history here 3: post nothing but negative posts 3: troll the galleries sounds kind of like you huh? Like you said wrestling with pigs... It will rub off on you. I have nothing to hide or be ashamed about. . Can you say the same for the friends you so valaintly stand up for ? I suggest you do move along to greener pastures...no sheep here!!