The most important thing about ethics is that we hold to our own, despite pressures and inveigling by neighbors, peers, and bosses. Once we decide upon a standard, wherever we draw the line, it is up to us to live by it. It isn't up to me to impose my standards upon a scientist, a secretary, or a kid on the street, but I can make my opinion and example known to others. Providing an example is perhaps the strongest statement we can make. Do we shun thieves or accept them and their warez? A decade ago I was interviewing an artist for a position in a game company. When he found out that I didn't have a certain software program worth about $3,000 (I believe it was Lightwave), he opened a folder full of disks and offered me not only that program, but software from his former company and other stuff... whatever I wanted. I told him simply that I didn't accept software, but bought what I needed. I was outraged at the attempt to bribe me, but maintained my calmness, finished the interview, and escorted him out. I told HR that as soon as he got his paws on our products that bumbling puppydog would have spread them everywhere, so there was no way that I was going to hire him. If there were no johns, prostitution wouldn't exist, and the same thing goes for prostitution of the soul. If there were no takers, the people who deal in warez would have to find something else to sell or some other way to be accepted. Carolly