The saloon seems to be the most disagreed on thing, and violently one way or another. Hmm. I don't think I should completely ditch it, though, Lyrra. DAZ has expressed some interest after seeing the preliminaries. I don't do haired P5 versions of anything. I don't have or want P5, and I don't plan up upgrading my Poser until DAZ Studio comes out, which I'll consider the upgrade. Bikermouse: No, I'm saying I'm not going to do anything that could be taken as my endorsement of that movie or anything like it. I may be needing to up the income, but not at the cost of my integrity or the country I consider my own's pride. ESNRedShirt: don't worry about it, this is an open forum, and I'm listening to your responses, too. A leucrotta, huh? That's an odd thought. A flumph? LOL