Okay, the Space knight, due tothe response combined with it's state of being, makes the top of the list. So for those of you who have P5, I have a question... can the clothes made in the cloth room be exported as a wavefront OBJect in their cloth-bent result form? See, cause this Jedi Robe is sucking. I'm really pissed off at it, and it's why the Jedi Robes went to teh backburner in the first place. The first way I tried to model it was by actually carving out the pieces of 'cloth' and applying a Max SimCloth modifier to it, but it worked like crap. Actually I just watched the bloody cloth bounce up and down over and over again. I was hoping it would settle and drape itself nicely over the figure. THen as I was gathering information from this thread, I read That thread I was filled with self-loathing and self-doubt because on first reading I was thinking 'You bastard! You BOX MODELLED THIS???' And you make it look so CASUAL????!!!' On rereading it, I realised, no, this was just a decent resolution box, literally, not modelled at all, with the P5 cloth room applied to it. And it did this. It was casual. And if that can be exported in OBJ form as it's result... Anyhoo, I was thinking that I'd give a cut of the profits on the Space Knight to anyone with P5 who's interested if this can be done: I'd make an 'inflated' robe that would drape over a figure. You'd need Michael, of course, since that's who the Space Knight is for. I'd provide clothing and make sure it fits over Mike, particularly the bastardly robe, as a single OBJect for each piece with materials mapped as the final intended body part names. You run the cloth room on it and make it settle and fit over him, and maybe make some versions that 'blow in the breeze' if P5 lets you do that, and then I can remap them to break the materials into groups, remat the lot of it, and finally make it into a conformer that's P4 compatible. Whattddya say? Any takers? We can negotiate the percentage but I'll be generous. Make me an offer.