_dodger, "Joy to the World was a beautiful girl, but to me Joy only meant sorrow" - from Neilsen Schmelsen She said it was - as I was involved at the time I never got the chance to find out - she could have been a stripper. It turns out that Destiny was not my Fate . . . and if I hadn't changed my plans one particular weekend the Springstein thing might actually have happened. A friend who worked in the bar was there to later relate the story to me when "The Boss" rode in on a Harley, and somehow it made the Phoenix Newspaper (circa 1987.) I hear "Honkey-Tonk Girls" running through my head . . . wonder what tha means(?), - TJ