Don't be ashamed, Dodger : his messages is about the cloth room in P5, not conforming clothes. In the real world,what he did would be just find a potato sack, cut holes por the feet and arms, arrange the neck a little, and voila ! Poser 5's cloth room did the rest. (OK, OK, I would be at a total loss to do what he did. I was just trying to chear dodger up and to put things in perspective). By the way, Dodger, did you modelled the bulge of the speedo after someone you know ? Is it a gun in his trunk or is he just happy to see us ? LOL compiler