Kathy you wrote: "It was at least 3 years ago. As far as anybody else accussing her of using anything I am unaware of. And believe me I would have known, I am her oldest daughter and she would have told me...." I beg to differ with you on whether you had been made aware of any problems in the last 3 years. I have several rounds of communications between you, Gloria, and myself regarding the same issues from last summer with meshes involving 3 other artists. I was really dismayed to see this thread because I was under the impression that any misuderstandings that she may have had concerning copyright and ownership of meshes had been clarified at that point. I had also hoped that as her daughter you would have been able to guide her to a better understanding of what is and is not allowable. Yes, she may be 70 but age does not excuse one from the law. It seemed to me that Gloria was not only confused but hurt and angry reagarding the accusations at rendo in the past. I sincerely believe she does not understand the limitations of usage. But the bottom line is that if she is not capable of understanding, for whatever reason, then someone needs to act as her agent and take responsibility for the what she distributes. If that person is yourself, great. But saying that she is old insults many other people of her age group. And to say that you have not been aware of other infractions, is an insult to my integrity.