aleks I have to disagree with you in part, there's not one single piece of software I've bought in the 10 years I've had a pc that hasn't had bugs. You could say I've been beta testing software for 10 years & paying to do it so Poser is no different. What would make me happy is if Daz buys Poser & employs the CL staff then carry on with the development of Poser like nothing happened.