I said I wasn't going to post here anymore, but.... I think it's important to remember that for every shift and change in corporate politics, there are people behind them, and sometimes people get hurt. Despite our occasional differences on some things, I think Steve desered better for his patience and perserverrance. The CL people tried harder than most, who would have just ignored the customer base altogether, like most 'high-end' companies. If in nothing else, that makes what Steve and CL did a success. Good luck Steve and everyone else. I am sure this is only a difficult period, and better things will come.