Ok, having read most of the above... Last time I spoke to Kupa he was going to Germany to close up Egi.Sys, of course that could have just been spin... Also with V3.0 being of a different format and mesh to V2.0 it's a fair bet that the file format will no longer be a problem, or is one of those things can can be cast into litigation for years and not worried about. Doubtless we will never know really know "the Truth" (tm) but it will be endlessly debated regardless :) later jb