Geeze, Saxon, I wish I was. An optimist that is. This is a sucky situation all around. I hope it didn't sound like I attacked you, Kupa, cause I certainly didn't mean to. From reading your goodbyes, it really sounded like you got the rawest end of this deal and was expected to put the best possible face on it for the longest time. And then, after you got things relatively stable, you and the rest of the real Poser team were dumped. No, the stupid businessmen here were not in Santa Cruz. I'm nearly totally disabled, and Poser is one of the few things that keeps me getting up in the morning. I love it that much. Enough that at this point-- oweing little to Egysys-- or however they spell it-- I want it kept alive somehow, in some form. I wish you, your family and your friends well and happy lives. I thank you for what you were able to do under almost impossible circumstances with too little staff and way too little money. And, I even love Poser 5. I jsut wish I could work it better. Ok, and faster.:)) Emily