Well so far there is really nothing special Wings does. I'm not trying to start a heated debate or anything. I have trueSpace and Lightwave so I was just wondering what all the excitment was about. Wings is a very powerful free program. Perhaps if I play with it some more I'll understand it better. I like some of its concepts like it selection colors of red, green and yellow that corrispond to warning, caution and all clear. But the problem is finding the time to use it. Modeling is a difficult enough without having to learn another program. Vincent D. Brumback