ah- funny you should mention Bonbon- when I first started here, not that long ago I was very impressed by her gallery & very much influenced by her- she was "my very first comment" & I remember being oh so humbled that someone with her artistic & photo sense would comment on one of my works- whatever happened to her? sigh I just hate when good ppl disappear that is an ideal to consider, post the original in photo & the manipulated one in 2D or MM I know I'm pushing the limits, I will take more time to consider this I certainly have barely scratched the surface in photography, although I've been in & out of it for yrs. & have been having fun experimenting with what computer manipulation can do there's certainly room for everyone so, yep, bring it on! -photographs, snapshots, enhanced, semi-manipulated, & semi-nude?(with nudity warning!) the good, bad, & the downright ugly? hopefully the person will come away a better photographer with a little helpful criticism or friendly tip Thanks for putting up with me :) Cindy zzzzzzip! (zipping it up! not another peep outta me) luv ya!