Hmm?? My main topic wasn't out of dislike. I am sorry if I got off on the wrong foot? I was wondering if anyone had found any software programs out there in the CG Software Industry market that have more capabilities, features, and/or functions that work hand in hand with Poser, Daz,& etc. Better could also mean supperior.P3DO has been in due process for several years. Not to mention the bug list..& let's not forget that most of these companies don't have damage insurance??It doesn't take long to tie up a lot of collateral in a computer???look at it this way???If I went and bought a car. put 2000.00 down. Then spent 350.00 a month for a year. That would equal an investment..Well, If we had a fender bender???Need I say more..I guess that why I also have C4D. regards,