I will keep trying, but as you all know recreating a real person is very difficult, so we all my have to settle for an approximation.. By the way i'm not going for Liv Tyler in her normal state but as Arwen, so it'll be a mix of her and my view of Arwen. :) Sorry to say grey cat but was that supposed to be Liv tyler as Arwen...??? Or just a normal V3... i thought maybe u were being sarcastic... If thats not the case then sorry! Constructive critique is what i'm going for here. I'll do some pix of Arwen from different angle.... arghhh LOL..... Or I may just do Galadriel instead HAHAHA!!! Thanks once again for all you great idea's. HUGZ Remember i'm going for a resemblance not a clone... :) I know what you mean about her face been softer and i did do that but it stopped barring any resemblance at all.. Beacuse you can't just make the lower part of V3's face fuller.. I will keep going though. get some pix etc... I know this face will never please everyone as everyone interprets people in a different way. For me this is my version of Arwen and not Liv Tyler :) Back to the grind stone!!! Luv -=SimderZ=-

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