Glad to hear something from CL, however tongue in cheek in may seems. "financially stable". I'll try this one with my banker next time I'm broke. On the positive side, I think it would be time for Poser to allow plug ins to be developped by third parties. It could become modular and you'd buy separates add-ons that would suit your work (I never do any animations for instance, but I'd invest a bag of bucks to get a really user-friendly interface or a cloth room working with no frames...) Just ideas. Compiler