I suspect right now CL has its hands full trying to reorganize the workload of a diminished staff. It may be unreasonable of us to expect them to be hanging out in a dozen forums listening to us grump away. While many of you may have given a lot of time and energy to helping the company along the way, none of you has the investment of time and money that they have. I can understand that everyone's worried about the future of Poser and I've had my share of fun poking at them as well, but it may be time to put this thread to bed and get back to creating....and let CL do the same. Time will tell their future. If we really want them to succeed, then we should continue to support them by using their product and encouraging others to do the same.