I am sorry to learn of the layoffs at CL. I agree with Thorne's comments that Poser allowed the masses (myself very much included) to enjoy 3D graphics like no other app before it. For that I am greatful and I showed my support by upgrading to P5 asap. I think P5 is a great application. Sure, I moan about this and that, but overall, it's worth every buck. Just think how much we pay for a single "object" (model) and compare that with the price of P5. P5 is a good deal now that SR2.1 has been released. I am sorry to learn that CL is "financially stable" which if I'm not very much mistaken means "still broke". I hope things become more unstable in a positive way soon. I hope that an SR3 release will do that. What would be even better would be a new self installing version on CD (including SR3) That, I would be prepared to pay a few bucks for. Best wishes Team CL, I hope things improve soon.