BT Sculptor, I have offered items to the community, two full featured professionally modeled trees, complete with professional textures, an oak tree and a poplar tree, but I can not post them on the free stuff because my web space is limited to 15Mb and my bandwidth is limited also. And I can not store them here at Rosity because they are huge. If you or someone else offers web space to host them, I'll be happy to give them for a permanent display and download. If you are curious and want you can make a search in the Xfrog forum and you should find the posts about the oak I offered last year. For the other tree you would have to look into the Vuedesprit archives at Yahoogroups. This be enough for your little, sterile polemics against me that I do not want to pick up further more because I don't want to lower myself to that level. A further word of clarification: My post wasn't aimed at you particularly - I didn't even mention your name, someone else did. My post was regarding a habit that I consider -personally- annoying, and potentially dangerous should it become a diffused habit for everyone wanting to get exposure and contacts without effort. It would simply submerge free stuff and make it unuseable. Having that said - it's perfectly legitimate for you to post whatever you want in the freestuff section. It's also perfectly legitimate for users of the free stuff section to complain about what they personally consider annoying. This is all part of the democratic life of a community. best regards, Orio