----------------------------- "There is nothing P4 can do that P5 can't..." Not true. Aside from what's been mentioned, P5 can't: 1) handle more than 3 or 4 mil characters & textures without bogging down, 2) switch rooms quickly and smoothly, 3) be used all day without locking up or needing a restart, 4) render as fast with the P4 renderer, 5) etc. -------------------------------- Funny, I have never had any problems with any of these. Of course #4 is funny to me because I can't imagine why anyone would want to use the P4 renderer when Firefly is 10 times better and only slightly slower. And reason #5, well, that's a hell of a reason! *8-) Maybe it's your system. I'm running on a P4 2.53Ghz with 1 Gig of DDR RAM and 2 40 gig drives set to RAID 0. A good system is important.