Seems to me letting larger things into teh TARDIS always led to unrest. I have a colourful imagination, what can I say B^) But if you wanted to be a purist purist, the light would have started out grey -- along with everything else grey -- all the tellys were B&W back then (and so was the BBC) B^P heheh. Just as a note JH, it's actually generally preferred to have an external OBJ file rather than the onject in the PP2. When Poser first loads up one from an external OBJ it creates a geometry RSR, which is a compiled, binary geometry. If the RSR is there after that, it doesn't need to read it in again. In a PP2, however, the CustomGeom is actually an uncompiled OBJ and it has to be read in and translated each time, not just the first. Your prop is so small it really doesn't matter, but if your next item is much bigger you may want to give some serious thought to the seperate-OBJ approach. Personally, whenever I download something with internal geometry I extract the OBJ and seperate it out if I intend to use it more than once. Oh, hey -- as a PS -- youmight want to leave a PNG thumbnail in there for the PPP and P5 folks. It doesn't bother me (I'm on 4.0.3) but I've seen long discussions in the Product Showcase forum about what people wish merchants would do, and the PNG and RSR both thing is on th top of the list.