Sam, hmm, I can tell you how to do good fire... B^) nods I actually have plans for a gallery system with which you'd list off the things you used (including some 'other' fill-ins) and upload, Rather than uploading to a specific gallery. That way you can mark somehting as using 3DSMax, Poser, and Photoshop, if you choose, and the work will show up in all three, but won't show up in the Pure Poser gallery, for instance. Sometimes postwork is a good thing, and sometimes it's better to let the render do it, if you're going for startling realism, especially. Myself, I have to admit that I get miffed when I see someone use one of my lightsabres but then postwork in the blade, especially when I referenced movie stills to get the blade exact, and their postworked one is a huge fuzzy one instead -- I never say anything to the artist, of course. It's their choice.