Thanks for the comments.. I always forget that not everyone knows what the Super Bowl is. Hopefully.... and I mean hopefully I'll have this done to today but that's totally dependant on how good the games are today. Just need to finish the booze bottles, drink glasses and other bar stuff like the beer taps. Most of them are pretty well modeled I just need to put gordons... These renders take about 2 to 3 minutes in Cinema. I know it needs to be messed up some. I haven't worried about any of those details yet. There's no way Poser could handle the whole scene, so I will probably just put everything in 3 or 4 pz3s. I probably should add something instead of the mirror section on the bar for p4 users since it doesn't do true reflections. I seriously doubt that P5 will handle the bar either, but I try that later. Here's a couple of more pics of the rest of the bar. Ed