And while we are discussing clothes, lets look at this as well. V3 is a HUGE file with all the morphs. Typically when I do a scene for a client, I have more than just Vicky, naked in a temple. I have backgrounds, props and other characters(sometimes Mike, sometimes the Preteen or Steph, or a whole group). Even with a AMD2200XP and a gig of RAM it bogs down. Now we have Vicky 3 and her 120 mgs with full morphs(not counting high rez textures). Hello? Bryce and Vue CHOKE on that. Poser isn't real pleased either. I'm all for realism, but geeze, I can't afford a Cray just to do Poser scenes