Thanks Everyone! Wings sounds like the best bet. Can't afford to get truespace just yet and didn't really get the hang of max the times I tried it. I'm using Rhino now which is a nurbs program. I generates shapes with functions which tend to smooth surfaces. For example, I did a jet body and wings. When I unioned the nurbs the nose bent up. My choices now are to force a large number of nurbs or mesh points on each face and edit point by point or to slice rotate and patch faces. The problem is it take hours and I don't always apply the same degree of roughness to each unit. Iv'e got a model of stonehenge with 94 separate stones just for the large ring. It sounds like wings can turn the editing from months into hours. I'll let you know how it turns out. Thanks!